A point of view

I've come to relaize that there's a debate going on on my blog. And since it's important, I wanted to show it right here...

A reader from Israel, nadav wrote the following:
"I am well aware of the damage that the tragic incident (which you call "massacre") has caused both for Israel and for peace seeking Lebanese. I learned about it when I woke up yesterday, and opened the Internet. Believe it or not, when I saw what had happened I felt physically sick to the extent that I needed to lie down for a couple of minutes. I knew at that moment, that not only many innocent lives were taken, but that we delivered Hezballa with the best ammunition it could wish for. Naseralla had wished exactly this kind of event to occur, because this was the only way he could have gotten out of this conflict triumphant. No matter how many Katiusha rockets we destroy and how many Hezballa figthers we kill, Lebanon is now united behind him, because of our military's horrible mistake. I know this all too well, believe me.But I still call upon you to ask yourself: What is this all about? The Sheba farms? A no man streach of land, 14 km long, 2km wide? A streach of land that the United Nations acknowledged as belogning to Syria, not Lebanon? Or is it the two Lebanese prisoners? One of them, Samir Kuntar, is a cold-blooded murderer, who killed a father and his two daughters at their home, and the other - an Israeli born spy? Does it worth it? And more importantly - do you really believe Hezballa has built such monstrous bunkers and piled up so many missiles and launchers for the sake of these causes?No, my friend (if you allow me calling you so), anyone can see there are much larger interests invloved, and the stakes are much much higher. Stakes, that Israel cannot afford to live with.As far as I'm concerned, you can have the Sheba farm, and your two prisoners. Will Hezbollah disarm after this happens? Only if forced to do so, and currently I don't see anyone who can and wishes to do so. I have hard time believing that the Lebanese goverment can disarm it, and I know for sure that the Iranian don't want to.We have no interest destroying your land, but the threat of Hezballa as a remote Iranian military outpost, was just too great for us to ignore, and it got greater by the day, with no other force but us, which can stop it.Hezballah may have been seen as a legitimate patriotic resistance as long as Israel held the security zone in South Lebanon. It is no longer that movement. It still uses "patriotic" excuses, but what really makes it going now - should worry you no less then it worries us.سلام عليكوم "

And here's a reply i got on my e-mail from a guy named Elie from Beirut:
"You said it yourself, Nadav, what does sebaa farms mean? let me ask you this, what does it mean to Israel? It's just giving Hezbolla a reason to survive. If you guys admit it worth nothing in your eyes, then just withdraw from it! Put Hezollah in th corner, disarm it from all its survival excuses. At least, by that the Lebanese government can say that all the lebanese land have been freed, anf hezbollah doen't constitute a patriotic resistance movement anymore.But when Israel continue occupying shabaa farms, and now establishin a new "security zone" as you call it (while it's simply occupying more and more lebanese territories), you are giving all the reasons to hizbollah to NOT only survive, but gain the support of all Lebanese.You said it yourself, this war ain't going to bring peace to Israel, you are loosing whatever you are doing, and Lebanon is suffering, only Hezbollah will march out victorious, and guess what? strnger than ever and having the support of the Lebanese.STOP giving Hezbollah excuses to survive, withdraw from shebaa farms and the rest of lebanese lands....As for the two lebanese presoners, if you say that one of them is a murderer who killed an Israeli family, then guess what? he two Israeli soldiers are murderers as well, in fact the whole Israeli army is a nurderer of poor innocent Lebanese civilliace. or you're gunna use the "double-standard" method again?If anyone is responsible for the existance of hezbollah, it's Israel and its stupid mistakes in Lebanon. This war will not disarm hezbollah, and IDF has just relaize that, but they are too proud to admit it....."

Two points I just feel like I need to talk about:
1) What happen in Qana is a MASSACRE, don't hide behind the truth, Nadav. When 55 people, mostly women and children, are killed in such a brutal way, it is called a massacre, not atragic incident. You can call a murder a tragic imcident, bu when you bombard innocent people hiding from IDF attacks, this has one name..... a MASSACRE.

2) Maybe shebaa farms doesn't mean anything to Israelis, but for lebanese, each and every sand of our lands matters as much as the whole Lebanon. And if you think it's not such an important thing, then just withdraw from it.

I'm not taking sides here, and I can see that you, Nadav, is a reasonable man. I don't support hezbollah, and we spent the whole of the last year asking for a full-control of the lebanese Government to all Lebanese territories, but once again Nadav, when Israel is attacking us and killing our innocent civilliance, we can't ask the only force defending Lebanon to disarm itself. I think you know what I'm talking about.

I'm glad that we're having such good illustration of points of views, keep it coming guys, but please name things by its real names, and don't hide behind your noses.